© Kurt Eggenstein: 'The Prophet J. Lorber Predicts Coming Catastrophies and the True Christianity'

Proof as to the Authenticity of Jakob Lorber's Prophesy

Lorber's Disclosures Concerning the Nature of the Universe and Their Confirmation in Modern Astronomy

   First of all, we come to consider the disclosures made in the New Revelation relating to scientific definition of the universe, of atoms and elementary particles, and both prehistoric and original man. These details, written down in the middle of the last century, have only been shown to be wholly correct a few years ago, on the basis of research work in the different scientific disciplines.
    The predictions agree with present-day scientific knowledge to such a striking degree that an objective view cannot consider the human mind of the prophet to have been the source of these statements. The following chapter is therefore fundamental in coming to any conclusion as to whether Jakob Lorber was a genuine prophet inspired by God.
    The chapter has been taken from the author's small publication 'Der unbekannte Prophet Jakob Lorber' * 'The Unknown Prophet Jakob Lorber'. *Kurt Eggenstein. Der unbekannte Prophet Jakob Lorber - Eine Prophezeiung und Mahnung fuer die naechste Zukunft. 74321Bietigheim: Lorber Verlag 1973.

Lorber's Disclosures Concerning the Nature of the Universe and Their Confirmation in Modern Astronomy

   Until the second decade of this century, the predominant view among astronomers worldwide was that there was only one galaxy in the universe, and that this was our Milky Way. During the 19th century, the reading authorities excluded "the possibility of further galaxies". 21 Astronomers who suggested that there might be other galaxies after all, were labelled heretics and lambasted in the specialist journals by distinguished experts. When H.D. Curtis said that he could provide definite proof that the small nebulae seen through the telescope were not nebulae but galaxies, the majority of scientists were not prepared to accept his thesis. Still, the number of astronomers who came to accept Curtis's view was growing year by year, and between 1921 and 1924 two opposing groups had formed who were in violent dispute. 1925 brought a decisive turn of events. The anti-galaxy faction had to acknowledge that their concepts were far removed from reality. The new 2.57-m Mount Wilson telescope, then the largest in the world, had unequivocally demonstrated that there are galaxies outside our own Milky Way. In January 1925, Edwin Hubble reported at an astronomers' congress that the nebulae in M31, NCG6822 and M33 had clearly been shown to be galaxies with the aid of the new telescope.
    There is a certain satisfaction in recalling that some renowned astronomers, having created a dogmatic uproar in their refusal to accept the hypothesis that other galaxies existed, had also doubted the usefulness of the giant telescope when it was being built, pouring scorn upon it. 22
    Hubble's findings were soon confirmed by many other astronomers. Some galaxies were small, others were large. Although it is now known that these are galaxies and not nebulae, the term spiral nebula is still much used, although it is wrong. In a short time, the number of galaxies discovered in the heavens was said to be 800, and by 1949 it had risen to 100 million. When the 5-m Mount Palomar telescope was completed, it really became obvious that the number of galaxies is enormous, several thousand millions.
    Many scientists found that their world had collapsed around them; they were unable to grasp that in cosmology, science is coming face to face with the irrational nature of the universe. It still happens today that tangible facts cannot be accepted, because they do not fit into the established teaching
    lf Lorber's disclosures had become known to astronomers at the beginning of the 20th century, they would, of course, have earned scorn and derision, for Lorber had in the middle of the last century given detailed descriptions of things not discovered until giant telescopes, in 1925 and after. Below, extracts are given from the statements dictated to Jakob Lorber, space not permitting more. In the works 'Von der Hoelle bis zum Himmel' (VdH, From Hell to Heaven) vol. II, and 'Grosses Evangelium Johannes' (Gr, Great Gospel of St John) vol. VI, the following is said:
    "Envisage the order of the solar systems as follows: The many millions of planetary suns, with planets like your earth moving around them, are one solar region, with a common central sun. The central sun of this region is always so large that it has hundreds, nay thousands, and indeed sometimes millions, of times the material content of the suns circling it with their attendant planets, there being larger and smaller such regions. The larger a solar region, however, the greater must also be its central sun."
    Many such solar regions together were defined as a solar universe by Lorber. A solar universe again had an even greater universal sun at its center. (VdH II 298, 5) The next higher stage is the universe of solar universes. Seven million universes of solar universes are circling a gigantic primary and original sun. (VdH Il 299, 8)
    "Such universes of solar universes", it says in Gr VI 245, 3, "have at a limitless depth the most immense, enormous most central of suns (also known as principal or original central sun). Such a universal system may be referred to as a universal shelled globe, for all these universes of solar universes, circling the original central sun in all directions, make up an immeasurably large globe, and moving of necessity at the speed almost of thought, form a kind of shell at a depth and distance that to you is immeasurable." (Gr VI 245, 8) "But do not enquire into the size and length of such a shelled globe for man is unlikely to think of a number that could adequately express this distance' " (Gr VI 245, 13) "Yet such a globe of shells is really only a single dot in the vast spaces of My creation." (Gr VI 245, 14)
    "In the infinite vastness of created space, there are innumerable such globes, that in their totality exactly encompass a complete and perfect human being, according to My order of things. How tremendously great therefore must be this Cosmic Man when even a globe of shells is of such great vastness, and the distance from one such globe to another is greater yet by aeons and aeons." (Gr VI 245, 16 and 17)
    The questions as to the dimensions of the universe have occupied astronomers at all times. A number of theories have been put forward, but we shall not go into these. "What is there beyond the universe?" Dr. Karl Schaifers of the Heidelberg Observatory has asked. In his view this is a paradox, for, as he writes, "such questions in principle cannot be answered." 23 Lorber's answer to the question is as follows: "Beyond this Cosmic Man, open etheric space continues in all directions for ever and ever. And this Man is flying through this space in a circle that for your concepts is truly infinite in size, impelled by My will, at a speed beyond your understanding, and this because of the nutritive matter from the endless etheric sea, through which he is swimming, as it were, like a fish." (Gr VI 245, 19)
    "No one but God can grasp the infinite dimensions of eternal space, even the greatest and most perfect of angels cannot grasp the eternal depth of space' " (Gr VI 56, 9)
    Cosmologists do not deny that man is unable to encompass the infinity of space. The astronomer Dr. Heinrich Faust, for instance, has written that "the world certainly does not have to be constructed in such a way that our small brain can understand it." 24
    How do the views of modern astronomers agree with the description given by Lorber of a universe consisting of different stages? Lorber refers to the solar regions as the lowest stage, this being his term for a galaxy. According to him, there are large and small solar regions (VdH II 298, 4). At the Mount Palomar Observatory in California, the renowned Swiss astronomer, F. Zwicky, has made a systematic study of the distribution of galaxies within our universe (Lorber's shelled globe, author) and found that there are all kinds of aggregations of stars, "from globular clusters and dwarf galaxies to the huge spiral nebulae of many thousands of millions of suns, and finally small and large galaxies." 25
    Ducrocq also points out that the "gregarious nature" of galaxies is a definite fact. "Distribution in groups," he concludes, "was not random, but followed a law." 26 "The spontaneous occurrence of order simply is not conceivable." 27 "A physicist knows today," Ducrocq states, "that there is no such thing as complete chance." 28
    In his book Cosmology and Antimatter, Professor Alfven of Stockholm speaks of galactive supersystems, known as metagalaxies, and Charlier, in his Model of the Universe, even assumes systems to exist in four ascending stages, as Lorber did. 29 According to P. von der Osten-Sacken, the Virgo cluster contains a large number of galaxies. "It is estimated to contain about 3000 galaxies." 30. "In Charles's Wain, 650 million light years away, there is a smaller cluster of about 300 galaxies." 31
    In his book God-Man-Univers, the French scientist, Bivort de la Saudée, has said, that the galaxies ar arranged in groups and clusters. 32 And 'Bild der Wissenschaft' (9/1980) contains the statement: "Our galaxy forms part of a local group composed of two or three dozen galaxies. The spectrum of aggregations extends to thousands of elements. There are even signs that the hierarchic order of the universe continues beyond this. Clusters of galaxies may again form 'superclusters'."
    The total number of galaxies is estimated at 10 thousand million today, according to Pascual Jordan. 33" These are figures beyond our power of imagination. Yet according to Lorber, these would merely be the galaxies in our own shelled globe. Many astronomers have long since had a feeling that there are further universes beyond this. In 1963, Naturwissenschaftliche Rundschau reported that the physicist PL. Brown had put forward a hypothesis of an infinitely large number of universes in Nature, which would be Lorber's "innumerable shelled globes". According to Brown, every separate part of the cosmos may be regarded as an electron in another that is a stage higher, and this would not conflict with the laws currently accepted in theoretical physics. 34
    In 1969, the President of the International Astronomical Union, Professor Heckmann, Santiago, suggested that it was not given for man to understand the whole of the universe, that only parts of it could be penetrated at a time. He spoke of the part of the universe that could be surveyed with the means available to astronomers."
    Lorber added the following to the disclosures quoted above: "Every such complex of solar and cosmic universes that are moving in infinitely great circles around the original central sun, is at a far distance from all the solar universes enclosed within a firm shell that cannot be penetrated by physical matter. This shell consists of a diamond-like transparent material and is smooth as glass on its inner surface. All the light now that emanates from the countless numbers of suns and is not received by any earth nor any sun, is received by this shell and again reflecte." (VdH III 300, 6)
    However far they extend the reach of their optical or radiotelescopes, astronomers will always be able to study only a minute part of the cosmos. This limit to our ability to survey the universe has been expressed in the above quote by Professor Heckmann. Dr. Faust puts it in even more concrete terms. He has written: "If the universe, in so far as we are able to study it, is indeed finitely curving in upon itself (as maintained by Einstein, author), it is probable that there are other universes (viz. shelled globes) outside this one. No intelligent being from a universe curving in upon itself will ever be able to learn anything about the existence of another finite universe." 36" The astronomer Jakob Korn has also declared that the cosmos cannot be observed in its universality, adding that "astronomers are well aware of the problems of cosmology." 37
    The overwhelming vastness of the numbers used in modern astronomy to convey the dimensions of the cosmos is at the level of the statements and thought categories presented in the New Revelation, striking proof of its veracity.
    The new discoveries as to the size of the universe made in the twenties and thirties were a real shock to astronomers. A similar thing happened when in 1961 giant suns were discovered with the aid of the new radio telescopes, completely upsetting all previous notions as to the order of magnitude of heavenly bodies. The size and intrinsic brightness of these bodies were so incredibly great that they went far beyond anything previously thought conceivable. Einstein had calculated that there could be no sun more than a hundred times the size of our sun." 38 Yet suns were already known in 1935 that had four hundred times the diameter, a thousand times the weight, and ten thousand times the brightness of our sun. The star Betelgeuse in Orion for instance has 500 times the diameter and 17,000 times the brightness of our sun. 39 The discovery of the biggest star to date, star R136a, in 1982, that has several hundred million times the brightness of our sun, put an end to earlier ideas as to a definite limit to the maximum size of suns." 40
    From the early sixties, the universe has no longer been studied with the aid of optical telescopes only; the new radio telescopes make it possible to penetrate far deeper into space now. The size and brightness of the objects they discovered took the scientists' breath away, for they made any giant star seen before appear small and insignificant by comparison. These objects were puzzling astronomers at first, and it was not clear if they were stars or galaxies. They were therefore called quasi-stellar objects or quasars in short. Another term sometimes used for them is radiospherules.
    When Australian radio astronomers had determined the exact location of the powerful radio source 3C-147 in 1961, two astronomers, Maarten-Schmidt and Thomas Matthews, identified the object optically using the 5-m Mount Palomar telescope, identifying it as a giant star. The light intensity of this object was greater than that of all the 100 thousand million suns in our Milky Way galaxy taken together. By 1968, the 5-m telescope had found almost 100 of these mysterious objects, some of them quasars that were noted with increasing astonishment. Quasar 3C-48 for instance has 150 times the brightness of the hundred thousand million suns in our Milky Way system. Quasar 3C-273 actually has the energy of 1000 large galaxies with 100 thousand million suns each. 41 The existence of such suns completely upset all scientific theories on the subject. Again the experts had been taken aback. The scientists were running out of superlatives to define the size and brightness of these objects. A strange hallmark of these quasars is that they have a large redshift, indicating distances of 6-10 thousand million light years. Recently, however, some doubt has been cast on the method of determining distance on the basis of redshift and the Doppler effect. Some scientists thought that these objects were not giant stars but galaxies, a hypothesis that did not survive long. From 1965 onwards, it was discovered that quasars showed great variability in energy levels. Professor Sandage wrote in The Astrophysical Journal that within a period of just under 24 hours, he had noted regular fluctuations in brightness on quasar 3C-371. Other astronomers made similar discoveries with all kinds of quasars. Kardashew, the Soviet astronomer, described periodic variation by up to 20%. Such variation in brightness is well known for stars, but unthinkable for galaxies.
    According to astrophysical theory, there can be no stars that have the magnitude of the quasars, because "radiation pressure and centrifugal pressure in combination practically exclude the existence of more than 1032 kg. " 42 However, just a few decades ago it seemed impossible to imagine an energy source large enough to maintain solar radiation in its intensity for thousands of millions of years. lt was only much later that the assumption was made that this radiation is based on atomic energy. Professor Tirala counters the thesis of quasars being impossible by saying: "According to Einstein, the giant star should long since have been torn to shreds, but this has not happened, and it continues all the time to radiate enormous amounts of energy." 43 There have been many theories in the past that were considered proven and yet had to be abandoned because of the sheer weight of the evidence against them. There is no need to go into the many attempts to explain and interpret quasars, for they did not even get to first base at astronomical congresses. "Nowhere else " K. Rudzinski once said, "is speculation as rife as in cosmology." 44
   Jakob Lorber anticipated also the quasars now discovered by modern science. Just as he described the universe that achieves its greatest expansion in Cosmic Man, so he also went into details about quasars. He gave a clear picture of the enormous increase in orders of magnitude and the brightness of the different types of central suns. His descriptions may have seemed the product of a lively imagination, a kind of gigantomania, to earlier generations. Present-day readers, familiar with the discoveries made in astronomy, will, however, be surprised at the predictions quoted below that may well give food for thought.
    Lorber wrote that every solar region (= galaxy) had a central sun. This central sun "is always so large that it has hundreds, nay thousands, and indeed sometimes millions, of times the material content of the suns circling it with their attendant planets, there being larger and smaller such regions. As the size of these central suns increases, so increases also their light ..." "If for instance the diameter of the central sun of a planetary region is a thousand million earth miles (German mile = 7.4 km), the diameter of the central sun of a solar region will be millions of times the diameter of that of a planetary region. A central sun of a universe ... then increases again by millions of times, sometimes even thousands of millions in proportion of magnitude and also of light." (VdH II 298, 4 ff) That sounds incredible, but we also have the discoveries made by reading astronomers today and their comments on these. Professor Sandage states that "At a rough estimate, the radiation coming from CTA 102 has a hundred thousand million times the energy of our sun" 45 Quasar 3C 273B was found to have same brightness. 46
    Astrophysicists still find it impossible to envisage that there may be stars radiating energies as high as 1046 erg per second. Hydrogen fusion certainly could not produce such energy gains and energy dispersion. There is at present no plausible physical model to explain energy conversion of such enormous magnitude .
    Scientists have also been taken aback by the discovery that these objects, formerly thought to be small, insignificant suns in the Milky Way, are a hundred thousand times further distant, many thousand millions light years away in space, as the latest research has shown. It is not without reason that H. Fahr has stated that "perhaps all our concepts of the universe need to be revised, as experimental data are beginning to indicate." 48
    Twenty years ago, in 1964, the Soviet astronomer, V.A. Amberzumiam, at Erivan in Armenia stated the following: "Though much is as yet unexplained where quasars are concerned, the conviction is inevitable that the nuclei of the galaxies have far greater importance for the evolution of the great cosmic islands (galaxies, author) than was formerly assumed. It now appears that the evolution of a galaxy starts from a nucleus of extraordinary mass and density." 49 The American astronomers, Hoyle and Fowler, also assume that the nuclei of galaxies do not consist of individual stars, as has been taken for granted, but of a megastar, i.e., a quasar that has about 100 million times the mass of the sun." 50
    This first became obvious when quasar M82 was discovered. As early as 1964, it was realized that the centers of spiral nebulae (galaxies) no longer consist of individual stars but a single star-like object. 51 According to Bild der Wissenschaft, it has been established since 1982 "that quasars are the nuclei of far distant galaxies." 52
    Some astronomers have established the thesis that quasars are 'black holes'. This is shown to be incorrect on the basis of the following evidence. The current view is that black holes do not emit light. Bild der Wissenschaft (4/1982) reports that light emitted from quasars has been recorded by the 3.6-m telescope at Europe's Southern Observatory in Chile. E. Bedlin and G. Neugebauer, astronomers at the California Institute of Technology, have carried out extensive ultrared radiation determinations and demonstrated that the nucleus of our Milky Way galaxy also has a mass of 30 million suns. 53
    Lorber gave an accurate description of yet another process scientists have recently observed on central suns. Professor Allan Sandage has recorded radio emissions from M82 that have shown great clouds of gases erupting from the nucleus. This object, also mistakenly thought to be part of our galaxy, has been shown to consist of a nucleus and a long jet that looks as if it were ejected from the star." 54 M87, a giant galaxy in the Virgo cluster, is also flinging tremendous protruberances into space, "intensely bright configurations the length of whole galaxies." 55 On 21 July 1972 there was a report in Die Zeit that four astronomers, Shaffer, Cohen, Jauncy and Kellermann, had established that clouds of gases were ejected also from the nucleus of the Seyfert galaxy 3c 120. As more and more such observations are made, many astronomers feel that new matter is beyond doubt being created in the nuclei of galaxies, i.e., in the huge central suns.56
    Once again, astronomers found themselves facing a new situation, and many did not know how to interpret the new findings. Some thought it was a nova, though novae usually fade within a few hours or at most days. Others postulated chain reactions of exploding stars. D. Disney van Berg investigated this theory very carefully and then rejected it. Photographs of the nucleus of M82 prompted him to suggest that the expanding clouds of matter result from the radiation pressure of extremely hot and large stars. 57 That, then, is the area where the recorded gravity waves originate. A report published in 1970 stressed that "unusual cosmic changes take place" in the nuclei of galaxies. "It is possible that processes take place here in which stars are also being generated." 58 Ducrocq has no doubts: "The stars therefore are flinging matter into space at different stages of their development and in variable rhythms." 59 Von der Osten-Sacken also declares: "It may be assumed that suns originate in the vicinity of the nucleus." 60 These views agree exactly with the disclosures made in the New Revelation. Jakob Lorber wrote about such processes, describing them as suns being born from the bodies of the central suns (quasars), as follows: "On this enormous sun, the purest of gases is burning, and this must always be present in superabundance in the great inner gasometers of the sun" (VdH II 298, 15). According to what Lorber has written, these gases are "flung into infinity as globes of tremendous radiance. At some point in the depth of space they then become suns in the region of a central sun." 61
    The description given in the New Revelation agrees with Fred Hoyle's Steady-State theory of a universe constant in time, for this theory presupposes continuous creation of new cosmic matter. Pascual Jordan has also made statements that agree with New Revelation, that "new stars are constantly" arising form the ejected plasma clouds (gases)."    By the way, Lorber wrote that the earth was not ejected from the sun, but from the gigantic original central sun of our shelled globe. Word for word, he put it like this: "The situation as concerns this earth is a very strange one. lt does belong to this sun, as a planet, but strictly speaking it is not of this sun the way the other planets are, but originally arose directly from the original central sun." (Gr IV 106, 8)
    Some decades ago, astronomers accepted it as a matter of course that the earth derived from our sun. Today, it has become obvious that this theory is untenable. Scientists have now discovered the following: "The widespread view that the earth consists of material from the sun is erroneous. Our planet consists to more than 50% of heavy elements (iron, nickel, copper, zinc, lead, uranium, author) that are not to be found in the sun. The difference in chemical composition makes it seem impossible that the earth was originally a fragment of the sun. The temperature of the sun is much too low - and always has been so - to provide for the synthesis of the heavy elements that are the main constituents of our planet. The earth undoubtedly comes from another heavenly body, one that is at least ten times the size. Only a supergiant can evolve the heat required to gave birth to 92 elements, which our plant contains in their native state." 63 Once again, therefore, something considered absolutely established has been shown to be erroneous, and scientific opinion has come to be in agreement with the disclosures in the New Revelation.
    The original central sun Jakob Lorber finally described for our shelled globe has a size and brightness far beyond our powers of comprehension. According to Lorber, it is identical with the star Regulus in the constellation Leo. The astronomers do not however consider this to be a very large star, nor do they think it is at all distant. Lorber on the other hand speaks of an "immeasurably far distance".
    Astronomers are of course aware that their data as to distances are none too reliable. This is something that has become obvious on a number of occasions in recent years. Ducrocq notes that in 1960, major corrections were required for figures obtained ten years previously, every single one being incorrect. When the quasars were discovered, further changes were required, this time to an unbelievable extent. The situation is still wide open where the estimation of distance is concerned, as Professor Maarten-Schmidt of Pasadena said at the 1969 congress of the Astronomical Society in Nuremberg, when he stated that the mystery of the nature of distance was still completely unresolved. After five years of work, there was now as ever no possibility of determining how far these strange objects were away. 64    Astronomers place Regulus in the 5th or lowest class of dwarfs or main sequence stars, to which our sun also belongs. (The quasars have not yet been classified.) But in fact the quasars, objects often a thousand million times the brightness of our sun, were in the past considered insignificant faint stars. A significant statement made by Dr. Karl Schaifers (Heidelberg Observatory) is that with the only method applicable in most cases, colour difference, it is never possible to say if an insignificant class 5 star may not in fact be an enormous giant star. His actual words were: "It is impossible to say, on the basis of the colour index, whether it is a giant star or a dwarf." 65 This explains why the astronomer Matthews gives a distance of 1 million light years for quasar 3c 48, whilst others put this object at a distance of 5 thousand million light years.
    In recent decades, astronomers have on several occasions had to make fundamental changes in their views as to the distances and magnitude of stars and the age of the universe. Each time new views had to be accepted, they came closer to the disclosures made in New Revelation. It seems a fair assumption therefore that further developments will take the same direction.

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